From: | Jason W Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca> |
To: | Neil.Foster <Neil.Foster@newcastle.edu.au> |
obligations <obligations@uwo.ca> | |
Date: | 30/12/2021 12:36:27 UTC |
Subject: | RE: [New post] Vicarious Liability of Bishop for abuse committed by clergy |
Dear Neil:
Thank you for the post and the information about the case. I do not share your confidence that the result will ultimately be overturned if it is appealed up to the HCA since I do not think that the
result is as contradictory to cases (such as Sweeney v Boylan Nominees Pty Ltd) as you claim. I say this for two reasons. First, your list of the relationships to which vicarious liability is possible is incomplete since Australian law has long recognized
vicarious liability for borrowed servants or servants pro hac vice which means that the existence of a contract of employment is not a touchstone for the relationship necessary for the doctrine. Second, in light of this I think that your classification of
a priest as an independent contractor is conclusory and counter-intuitive—just because priests do not have contacts of employment does not make them independent contractors ipso facto, otherwise servants pro hac vice would be excluded. Moreover, I think it
reasonable to assume that, to paraphrase the words of Lord Aktin, in Australian law there must be, and is, some general conception of relations giving rise to vicarious liability, of which the particular cases found in the books are but instances. Whatever
that generalization is, my gut reaction is that priests fall within it.
If pushed I would argue that the generalization is “representative”, which is quite consistent with Dixon’s observations in
Colonial Mutual Life Assurance Society Ltd v Producers and Citizens Co-Operative Assurance Co-Operative of Australia Ltd where he distinguished between the types of relationships to which vicarious liability did and did not obtain:
The work, although done at his request and for his benefit, is considered as the independent function of the person who undertakes it, and not as something which the person
obtaining the benefit does by his representative standing in his place and, therefore, identified with him for the purpose of liability arising in the course of its performance. The independent contractor carries out his work, not as a representative but as
a principal.
Happy New Year everyone!
Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
Law Building Rm 26
e. jneyers@uwo.ca
t. 519.661.2111 (x88435)
From: Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>
Sent: December 30, 2021 5:50 AM
To: obligations <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: FW: [New post] Vicarious Liability of Bishop for abuse committed by clergy
Dear Obligations colleagues;
I have an interest in “law and religion” issues and as part of a blog I run on that I have posted on a recent decision from Victoria finding a Roman Catholic Bishop
vicariously liable for abuse committed by a priest. I think the decision is wrong as a matter of Australian law (it would be probably uncontroversial at the moment in the UK.) Those who follow vicarious liability may find it of interest. It also has some comments
on non-delegable duty and I have linked to a “pre-print” version of a chapter I wrote a few years ago on the topic which may also be of interest.
All the best to all for a Happy New Year!
Regards
Neil
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Law and Religion Australia <donotreply@wordpress.com>
Date: Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 9:23 pm
To: Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>
Subject: [New post] Vicarious Liability of Bishop for abuse committed by clergy
neilfoster posted: "
In a decision handed down just prior to Christmas, DP (a pseudonym) v Bird [2021] VSC 850 (22 December 2021), a judge of the Victorian Supreme Court ruled that the Roman Catholic Bishop of the Diocese of Ballarat could be sued as vicariously
liable for c"
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